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 |  | | | | Reply New Topic | | Hate to tell you this but nothing in this world is certain. There is no security in any field that you choose to work in. You can be laid off or fired for a number of reasons ranging from the economy to how much your customer likes the services that you provide. So, you have to choose. People will often tell you to choose something that you like doing so that when you experience hard times, you’re willing to endure it. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | It’s always interesting read posts from Anonymous and Don. It’s like Albott and Costello. Don, the bending of the knees and not moving forward step that you’re trying to describe (you kind of lost me when you started to introduce CBM and CBMP into this issue though), is what they teach us in the very first level of bronze when we know ditully about the waltz. You seem to forget that the hip is also a joint that you can NOT bend if you were to keep your body verticle. What you describe does not create continuity of movement, that’s some thing that needs to be present in the waltz and also foxtrot. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | Anonymous. First are you refering to Latin or Standard. I`m guessing it is Standard
You are saying that you move your body forward without leaning. I would say that leaves me still verticle and not imbalanced. So where does your imbalance come into it
Again there is no imbalance .There is in Latin.
Would you also like to repeat one of your former statements that in Standard the body goes ahead of the foot so that we can go to our DVD`s and in slow motion see for ourself. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | "I`m guessing it is Standard
You are saying that you move your body forward without leaning. I would say that leaves me still verticle and not imbalanced. So where does your imbalance come into it"
There is imbalance because the body, from the knee up, becomes entirely forward of the standing foot. This means it is not balanced over the only foot bearing weight, which means it is not balanced.
Because the body is vertically aligned from the knee up, no leaning has occured.
You must learn to seperate the idea of leaning (bad) from moving the body weight off of the standing foot while maintaining vertical alignment (good).
Yet once again, I will refer you to frame 2, extension in the learning center forward walk. Although that sequence has some problems overall, frame #2 shows this unbalanced but vertically aligned position that you do not yet understand.
"Would you also like to repeat one of your former statements that in Standard the body goes ahead of the foot so that we can go to our DVD`s and in slow motion see for ourself."
That it does and must is the critical concept you do not yet understand. Again, see the referenced image and you must realize that body forward of the standing foot (and hence off balance) is precisely what has been illustrated.
Can you still not see how this does not involve any leaning? Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | "Anonymous. You write such garbage its not worth dicussing any more."
Pointing out your collasal error in confusing body rotation with body flight is hardly garbage.
But yes, it’s clearly not worth discussing anything with someone incapable of learning beyond their present beginner level. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | I have worked hard and spent much $ to get my dancing to a certain level. Then my partner decides to have other priorities, so this puts me back to square one since this is not a solitary activity. But, I found another partner, luckily, but I have to pay--the partner is a pro and a perfect match. The partner seems to be stable, reliable and not moving away anytime soon. I know some dancers that refuse to dance amateur due the instability of partners. I am now thinking now how much I can improve with this partner taking 2,3 or 4 lessons a week? I am very fit, athletic, healthy, take great care of myself--with good health how long can this last? Fred Astaire danced until he was in his seventies. Lots of older dancers just stick to International Standard and skip Latin.
I don’t want to teach or try to get into the business--it’s just a serious hobby that I continue improving at. Partners come and go, but it makes a big difference if you have a good one.
Think I may have lost some interest in dance if this above mentioned partner hadn’t come along. You never know--by losing one partner, I picked up a much better one.
I dance mostly for the dancing and the challenge. Sure I make some friends, but not that many since most of the time out dancing you don’t talk that much or sometimes don’t even catch their names. I definitely have favorite social dancers that work at, take lessons, and are constantly improving. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | It’s high time for ASCII Man.
this man is balanced AND vertical AND aligned:
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This man is vertical and aligned but not balanced because he has moved everything from the knee up forward. In other words he is doing exactly what he should when initiating a heel lead.
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This man is vertical and balanced but not aligned - he has lowered WITHOUT moving his center, which is in many cases a fatal mistake:
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | Anonymous. You have forgotten to bend the knee which will put your shin to an angle of 45 degrees, with your heel to the floor at the same angle 45 degrees.
For those of you who are new to this and wish to make a working model of what is a natural movement.
Get a shopper docket or any simular piece of paper. With the list of purchases facing your left. Fold at about an inch with a crease to the right. About 2 inches above that a crease to left, 2 inches above that a crease to the right. It doesn`t matter what size the peice of paper is. I am using an unopened letter which is probably better than a shopper docket. The top is your body. The bottom are your feet. Hold the body verticle and concertina the whole thing so that the feet are 45 degrees and the shin and the thigh at 45 degrees. Allow the feet to touch down Keeping the body upright. Do you see that the third fold is over the first fold. The front of this model is with the first crease at the bottom to the right.
I am not into Physics but I believe a steel upright which had rusted at those same places as the piece of paper is folded.If it collapsed it would behave the same. Thats why I call it a natural movement.
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | "Anonymous. Exactly what is body flight.
Please explain in simple language."
Carrying enough energy of movement in the body that you will, with no further action, drift completely through the step you are currently taking and on into at least one additional step in the same direction.
To avoid taking that additional step, you would need to rise and absorb the energy to a momentary stop (waltz), rise somewhat and redirect in a somewhat new direction (foxtrot), or push against the floor in a braking/checking action.
Unique among the standard dances, tango does not have body flight. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | Anonymous. Now wait a minute, Didn`t you say there was no stop in the Waltz. Now your saying there is. Wouldn`t it have been better to mention sway as a way of channelling the energy into a different direction, which is in this case up and over. Reply to this message |
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| | | | | Reply New Topic | | "Anonymous. You have forgotten to bend the knee which will put your shin to an angle of 45 degrees"
No, Don. I am bending my knee - remember I said moving the knee and everything above it forward. And I am bending my ankle. But I am bending nothing else - which is at it should be.
Your mistake is to put an extra bend at the waist, so that your knee goes forward while your body stays over your foot. That is simply and plainly WRONG!
Your center must go forward with the knee.
period.
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