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Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Foxy
1/27/2006  3:27:00 AM
The slow of the international foxtrot is the swing of the whole foot from it's back position to it's forward position thats why you need to dance a preperation step. The feather step takes place inside the bar of music.If you staart wilth feet together you are deleting the first beat in the bar of music,This foxtrot is danced by an excellent dancer who is use to dancing Amercan style foxtrot,it is difficult to switch styles at a moments notice. This is not the timing used by most top international dancers.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Rha
1/27/2006  4:35:00 AM
Foxy,

Are we talking about the same video, the slowfox clips under LEARN THE DANCES? I perplexed by your comments. He is dancing a prep step in the feather step demo, timing &SQQ.

Rha
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Foxy
1/27/2006  5:09:00 AM
Rha. You are correct,but I sstill say the timing is more like 1234 than &sqq ,but then who am I to say.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Rha
1/27/2006  6:15:00 AM
Okay Foxy,

We must agree to disagree because I've had a re-look at the clip 15 times over since your last post, just to be sure, and I still like his rhythm. He does not snatch at the prep, clearly dancing it on the & count of the previous measure. He keeps it all quite rhythmically even, with the slight surge and drift into the 1st and 2nd quicks respectively. All these are trademarks of top flight, authenthic, advanced slowfox timing for me.

Rha
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Anonymous
1/27/2006  6:35:00 AM
actually the foot timing with respect to the body is wrong - it is over eager
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Dave
1/27/2006  7:02:00 AM
IT,s hard to demonstrate a feather without first warming up,neather can you get the same results when you dance a figure piece by piece. It can,t have the same fluid motion as when danced in a routine,the dancer is not able to dance light and shade. Please teach me to dance a feather step as demonstrated and I will be satisfied. Dave
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Dave Continued
1/27/2006  7:06:00 AM
Foxy . Thank you for bringing up the subject as Rha has introduced me to some new concept and a different way of lookin at the feather step.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by jerryblu
1/27/2006  4:21:00 PM
I am going to beg to differ. That is NOT a prep step. That 1st Slow occurs on the 1st beat of the measure, not on the &. The count I heard on the video clip was SSqqSSqq. That 2nd SSqq demonstrates that the full step includes two slows. If it were a prep step then you would have one slow before launching into SqqSqq, not SSqqSSqq.

Unless you do a slow prep step before each feather????

I see folks dancing SSQQ Foxtrot all the time, shuffling around the floor. Altho Jonathan has explained to me that that is American Bronze, I just dont like it and I dont think of it as American Bronze. I think of it as Arthur Murray Bronze. I was taught SqqSqq from the start (American style), and when I graduated to Silver I learned to pass feet.

Jerry
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Anonymous
1/27/2006  5:09:00 PM
Jerry, no offense but dancing SQQ foxtrot with foot closure is downright silly. SSQQ foxtrot does a much better job of building the skills needed for SQQ continuinty than SQQ foot closure would.

As for the prep step issue, you are obviously watching the american clips while everyone else is watching the new international foxtrot clips.

Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by jerryblu
1/27/2006  8:20:00 PM
1. No offense at all.

2. You are entirely correct; I was watching the american clips. Somehow, I thought that the discussion was focussing on them, not the Int'l. Sorry.

3. Maybe silly, but Sqq with foot closure was how I started my learning. I didnt do natural turns for a long time, only reverse turns. I couldnt figure out why they were called reverse and why the right turn was natural.

Jerry

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