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Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  4:28:00 AM
Suomy. Our problem was a combination moving the body to quickly and reaching with the free leg in the mistaken believe that we had flight. The point is that the legs need enough time to work properly for example, in the third step of the fox RT to allow the foot to swing back from the knee rather than just trying to swing the whole leg as one unit from the hip. The secret of soft knees "I think" is to allow the lower leg to move the way it does when we walk? Obviously we can't slow the body down to the point where we have no flight and there are also obviouly times when the whole leg totaly relaxed(dangly) will swing from the hip as one unit.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by suomynona
2/2/2006  4:54:00 AM
Okay. You're previous post had sounded like you decided you needed to do something worrisome, such as give your free leg time to catch up or move ahead before your body moved, neither of which is necessary or desireable. Sorry I misunderstood you.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  6:19:00 AM
Suomy. Thanks for saying sorry,but every time you reply I learn something new so please ,Carry on
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by quickstep
2/9/2007  2:43:00 AM
Did I understand correctly that some people think that the third step should be on beat one and not beat four.
If that were the case exactly what timing is being used on the first step of the Reverse Turn. Is that on the second beat and now becomes a quick instead of a slow.. And then what happens on the the fourth step. Do we then pick up the normal timing. Why would we leave it in the first place.
Is there some misunderstanding happening here where the four beats are split into eight by some teachers some of the time, mainly to show that at the end of the Feather as an example the count becomes 4 (and ) which is called a balance point, or neutral or a collection point and is not 4 1 it is 4 (and).
On my tape some time is spent explaining that the feet are S Q Q. But the body is dancing Q. Medium .S. The interpretation should be left to the individual,If the judges don't like it then out they go.
It is possible that in a demonstration on one Reverse movement the dancer may arrive a little late. Do they do it on every step. Only an idiot would try to copy that one off and try to make it regular.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Anonymous
2/9/2007  6:32:00 AM
"Did I understand correctly that some people think that the third step should be on beat one and not beat four."

I hope not. Neither beat four nor beat one is "correct". Instead, the step will fall somewhere in between the two. Specifically, it will fall where it needs to in order to support sustained movement of the body with no hesistation.

"If that were the case exactly what timing is being used on the first step of the Reverse Turn."

When I measured it, the timing for the first step of the reverse turn was the SAME as the timing for the first step of the feather. This tells us that timing of the feet is shifted and does not align with the measures - but each figure gets exaclty four beats worth of time.

"Do we then pick up the normal timing."

No. You mantain the offset relationship, as that is what is necessary to create the characteristic body movement of foxtrot.

"It is possible that in a demonstration on one Reverse movement the dancer may arrive a little late. Do they do it on every step."

Yes, they are consistently "late" in the feet (which is to say, on time with the music in the way that matters) on every SQQ figure in the dance.

"Only an idiot would try to copy that one off and try to make it regular."

If that's how you feel, you should quit studying foxtrot, as if you ever succede in learning it, you would have become what you consider to be an idiot.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by quickstep
2/9/2007  11:41:00 PM
I love these discussions even though they are nonsensical. S Q Q. at thirty bars a munute= One bar every 2 seconds.
So how would you break this down in time.The first Slow = . The First Quick = . The Second Quick = .
The First of the Reverse = .
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by Anonymous
2/10/2007  7:45:00 AM
"I love these discussions even though they are nonsensical. S Q Q. at thirty bars a munute= One bar every 2 seconds.
So how would you break this down in time.The first Slow = . The First Quick = . The Second Quick = .
The First of the Reverse = ."

See the post of sinkinson's beat measurements and do the math yourself.

I'm not going to keep holding your hand... just here to keep you from confusing anyone else with your mistakes.
Re: Foxtrot as displayed on this site
Posted by quickstep
2/10/2007  2:52:00 PM
Did Andrew Sinkinson say to you, or did you read, or is it on a tape, what he said regarding the beat measurements. Or is this just your own idea.
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