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Keep the Beat
Posted by DennisBeach
10/14/2007  6:14:00 PM
What helped me, is listening to the music and having the teacher note the beat verbally or by clapping. In the beginning I just did not understand what I was suppose to be listening to. Than listening to music and focusing on finding the beat. I went from not hearing the beat, to being able to pick out the beat on most songs and identifying what can be danced to the song.
Keep the Beat
Posted by dheun
10/14/2007  8:50:00 PM
I had forgotten how tricky this can be, as recently a few friends I was helping with dances asked the same question and just had no "ear" for the music tempo or beat.
It seems best to try to listen to the "back beat" or the bass and percussion of a song. Your dance count is often hiding in there.
Otherwise, don't fret about a count, per se, and maybe just visualize yourself or another couple dancing to the song you are listening to. And then slowly count their steps in your mind. Before long, when you hear a song, you will automatically know what dance is best suited for a certain song.
Also, be prepared to have some difficulty adjusting to live music, after learning in a studio to strict tempo ballroom music. Some live bands are wonderful, others leave you kind of "cheating" between steps to get back on count and to keep things moving as smoothly as possible.
Keep the Beat
Posted by phil.samways
10/15/2007  3:24:00 AM
My advice would be to keep your learning process as simple as possible. Don't worry about dancing - tap your feet to music (quickstep would be best for this) or clap to the beat, or even walk about the house 'in time' with some waltz music. Do this on your own.
At first you won't know whether it's right or wrong. But hopefully, you'll get the hang of it.
In a studio, with other people telling you you're right or wrong (usually the latter, i guess) can be a bit demoralising and is putting you under pressure, making the learning more difficult.
Good luck with it.
Keep the Beat
Posted by alexis445
10/15/2007  9:02:00 AM
Hi Ken--

I agree with all the other posters here -- try to keep it as simple as possible in the beginning, you will notice that you're probably picking up on the basic beat without even realizing it.

As a very new dancer I have a lot of trouble finding the beat, especially picking up on the "1" beat. This page helped me a little by breaking down the "measures" of music. It seems a little complicated, but the section on the "tick tock" or "down beat (1), up beat (2)" was quite helpful. Hope it helps.

http://www.streetswing.com/timpge1.htm

Keep the Beat
Posted by kengraham
10/15/2007  10:34:00 AM
Whow

The response was very impressive and I thank you all for taking the time to offer suggestions. I can see that I am not alone, just need to stay with it. I have read each several times, will follow the advise and will keep trying.
Thank You
Ken in SD
Re: Keep the Beat
Posted by Eric
10/23/2007  10:44:00 AM
I'm with you on this. One of my studio's instructors asked me if I had problems hearing the beat. I've listened to enough music that I can now hear it in many songs (not all, yet), but I often lose it after I start dancing. He calls that "Don't bother me, I'm dancing". I'm getting better, as I can often recognize when I get off the beat, though getting back on is still a challenge.

Your situation is more basic. You need to listen to more music. Don't listen to the radio when you drive. Listen to the music you will dance to. Listen not to the tune, but the underlying cadence (not all beat comes from a drum). You should count until you are so comfortable that you can pick up the beat in the middle of the song and count it accurately. Some instructors will tell you not to count when you dance, but I'd suggest you tell them to go pound sand until you "get it" (politely). Eventually you will, and then you won't need to count (physically). Like any other skill, practice is the best medicine.
Re: Keep the Beat
Posted by Anonymous
10/23/2007  4:44:00 PM
Eric. Learn to count in bars of music.
1234 2234 3234 4234 through to 8234. Put a tick on a piece of paper. On a good piece of dance music it will be written that there is a four bar introduction followed by 64 bars of music played at a speed of.......I would use a none vocal Foxtrot and count every bar from the beginning to the end.What will happen towards the end is the concentration can wander. If you can get the same count repeatedly your doing OK. How often should this be done. Answere You never stop.
Re: Keep the Beat
Posted by molesaver
10/24/2007  4:30:00 PM
Check out "Social Dancing: Steps to Success," by Judy Patterson Wright. The first five chapters are about things to know before you learn any steps including two invaluable chapters called, "Music Structure," and "Ear-Foot Coordination". Best stuff about music for non-musicians I have seen, complete with simple (not to say easy) exercises to help you get it.
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