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Re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by Serendipidy
2/4/2008  6:31:00 PM
DeElle. I am of no importance and my oppinion counts for nothing. If it was left to me I would never have been instrumental in having Ballroom dancing
classed as a sport. And to even consider that it could become an Olympic Sport is too stupid for words. Look at the problems. A Russian dancing with an American. And none of them just for the sake of a few days would even consider dancing with one of their own nationality and cause a break with their regular partner. But now the IDSF have caused another problem by joining the IOC. Now they could call at my house anytime any day in or out of competition and ask for a sample.But they will never call on me because I am a nobody. Some guy in St Petersburg got lumbered because he wasn't in the home that was down as his residence when they called. There was no competition pending neither had there been. Incidently if you are a professional competitor and they asked for a sample, which they wouldn't. You could tell them where to shove their bottle.
Re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by Dr Elle
2/5/2008  2:05:00 AM
Serendipity I am not to sure how relevant your last comment was to the question at hand and I can't say that I clearly made a connection between what you and I posted.
It sounds to me that what you wrote has got more relevance to politics than philosophy. I will not argue for or against the IDSF and I will not critique their policies.
I am currently aware of the present tension in our dancing world between the major organisations and I REFUSE to involve myself in it.

The only part of your question that I will comment on is the fact that you do not agree with the IDSF's authority to request a sample for drug analysis. Personally I believe that this rule is an absolute necessary. This has nothing to do with art or sport but it has to do with law and equity. This rule ensures that those who participate in dancesport are not drug addicts or users which has a positive impact on the future of the sport. Imagine if there was no checking system in place. Younger dancers in the Juvenile and Junior age groups would be admiring not only the fact that there favourite dancers inspire them but also developing beliefs that the top dancers in the world frequently use illegal substances. They would then begin to 'experiment' in an attempt to 'be like the best'. A generation of lives destroyed to drugs. IDSF has developed this rule for this reason and also to ensure that no couple has any 'unfair' or 'morally questionable' competitive advantage over their competition.

At this point I would like to acknowledge that what I just wrote alludes to 'sporting' terms like 'competition', 'competitive advantage', 'the best'. When I think of dance, such words are not at the forefront of my vocabulary. However, the IDSF's rules are developed on the presumption that dancers are athletes. As a result we must analyse their rules from an athletic point of view and not an artistic one.

Most importantly I would like to conclude by saying even though the organisation may have defined dancing as a sport and continues to try to develop dance as a sport, not all of us dancers are on the same wavelength as the rules and must thus occasionaly adapt our beliefs 'temporarily' to those of the organisations.
Re: re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by composso
2/4/2008  6:22:00 PM
Is figure skating a sport? In response to emotional involvement, please watch any football/basketball/baseball/soccer game when the ref doles out a bad call. There is definately emotion involved!
Re: re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by Composso
2/5/2008  2:24:00 AM
Hi Composso.
I am sorry if your getting really sick of my posts on this forum because I know I am but I thought I might just give my opinion on your question.
I think figure skating is an art while football, basketball, baseball and soccer games are sports.
Although there is obvious emotion involved, emotion alone does not define art. My opinion is that in art, true emotion is created from something-it is like a product of a reaction. In figure skating, dancesport, ballet, painting, sculpting, acting, etc we are able to formulate emotions from actions. In dance by creating even very elementary movements the product is an emotion (this would be a very weak emotion. To make it powerful one would need to combine other things into the recipe). I think that the same thing occurs in figure skating.

In sports such as swimming, soccer, basketball, etc, when emotion occurs it is not intentionally created from something, it occurs just like in everyday life. I believe athletes do not 'create things' while artists do. For instance, I have a girlfriend and she always nags me to put the toilet seat down. It's like a constant nagging and it makes me express frustration and anger. Does this mean that keeping my girlfriend happy is an artform?.....................................................ill tell you sometimes i feel like it is
Re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by melissalive33
3/5/2008  12:20:00 PM
Yea, anything is possible since it is very active but when I think of sports it is more conditioning and has this whole different athletic perspective, but dance is such an art. Gymnastics that perform the floor exercises, people can debate that is reality dance but to but ballroom dancing, and etc. The Olympic committee has to rethink a way of how to judge that and accept that into the events.
Re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by melissalive33
3/6/2008  3:34:00 PM
To me it is my sport that i play and i been in it until i was two and i love it
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