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Re: Why do it
Posted by anymouse
2/12/2008  9:05:00 AM
"If you were to count Q Q Q and Q.Q and Q. All those Quicks look the same to me. But if I count in steps that becomes 1 2 3 45 6 78 . I know that last quick is the eighth step. Scatter Chasses in the Quickstep very much the same. I will always know when to come out of them with the music"

Your example has a duration of 6 beats or one and a half measures.

How in the world is saying "eight" on beat 2 (or 6) which is in the middle of a measure going to help you with fitting it to the music?

If you can't say the quick's with a measure inflection, then perhaps you should count it 12 3&4 5&6

The linear numbering of steps used in technique book charts is not intended to represent beats of music.
Re: Why do it
Posted by molesaver
2/12/2008  12:01:00 PM
I'm a veteran musician and a novice dancer. I think it is important for dancers to understand something about music. "1 2 3 a4" communicates one thing, q q q aq communicates a slightly different thing. I was fortunate enough to spend some time with an instructor who insisted on going over steps multiple times, one (or more) time "counting" quicks and slows, one (or more) time counting the beats that a musician would count ('and' and 'a' are not the same, as samba dancers know), and another counting the steps in a phrase, where the confusion about the number of beats being different than the number of steps gets resolved. They are all invaluable. Must say, though that '3 a4, 3 a4..' would be baffling, I think.
Re: Why do it
Posted by Serendipidy
2/29/2008  3:09:00 PM
I thought i would pop this bit of information in also. Jive. If I am practising Jive Chasses only with the music. No Fallaway Rock or a Link. I must let 1 2 go by and pick it up on 345678. And repeat by letting 1 2 go by. This is being techniqually correct which does help to understand the music in the Jive. If I started the Jive Chasse on beats 1 2. I would be out of rhythm
Re: Why do it
Posted by Serendipidy
5/5/2008  11:37:00 PM
Dondon. You are of course correct. All the others only need to look at column one in Wally Laird's to see there are eight steps and beside that timing and beside that we have the beat value. And beside that go to Michael Wentink's DVD Out of Africa and tell me that he doesn't count his choreography in eights in the Jive.
Next time your out watch some of the others and check to see who are on
1 2 LF back for the Fallaway Rock with the music. In the Jive it is easy to pick up the eight count and if they do a Fallaway Rock or a Link or a Kick Ball Change see how many are on the correct beat.
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