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In USADance competitions, Open means beyond syllab
Posted by jofjonesboro
10/20/2008  5:54:00 PM
I don't know what 'A Grade' means.

In the US, syllabus competition is divided into levels defined by 'difficulty': Bronze, Silver and Gold.

Open competition is supposedly 'above' Gold because it allows figures that are not included in the syllabus.

There are pro/pro and pro/am competitions in the US that call themselves "open" but participation still requires membership in some organization, usually the NDCA.

jj



Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by terence2
10/21/2008  5:03:00 AM
Open has become a dual meaning.

it now implies one of 2 things.. open in the " you " are all invited" sense..or.. you may dance any figures you choose ,No restrictions .

Open and closed was originally designated to serve as a distinction in a geographical sense as in " Country " .The classic e.g. of this was when Frank Regan won the Canadian and US latin and Standard Champ . ( he,s actually from scotland ) the US the following yr made it a closed comp. !
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by Polished
10/21/2008  1:06:00 AM
jofjonesboro. I suppose it depends on where you live. Before Dancesport was formed we had grades from E, thats the lowest, to A which was the highest. To elevate it took a certain amount of wins to go up a grade. Since Dancesport was formed the grades are 1 to 5. Somehow in their infinite wisdom grade 5 was made the highest, and grade 1 is the lowest. But as Romeo said to Juliet. A Rose is still a Rose. It doesn't matter what other name it is given it is still a Rose as is the name of the grades.
We don't have Medal Competitions here which is a pity.
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by anymouse
10/21/2008  7:53:00 AM
open telemark
open reverse
open choreography
open entry

Each a different meaning of 'open', and each a meaning that is well established and correct.
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by terence2
10/21/2008  8:37:00 AM
Open here
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by jofjonesboro
10/21/2008  8:48:00 AM
What does an Open Event mean to you (sic).

Polished set the parameters of the discussion quite clearly - for a change.



jj
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by Polished
10/21/2008  1:28:00 PM
An Open Event should mean that anybody can enter. Any competition organized by the WDC is completely Open. All of the IDSF competitions are restricted and not only that if you were to compete next month at Disney Land in Paris you will be victimised. This they have put in writting as a warning.
" A statement issued by the WDC says.
The present turmoil in global dance politics will only worsen whilst the current course is followed. The dance market is not of sufficient scale to sustain such internal antagonism ".
Truer words were never written.
Posted by jofjonesboro
10/21/2008  1:57:00 PM
"'. . . . The dance market is not of sufficient scale to sustain such internal antagonism'".

In prowling around through the websites of various ballroom-dance organizations, I was struck by so many vicious admonitions against participating in the "wrong" activities.

Ballroom dancing is probably enjoying as much popularity right now as it ever has and yet it still affects only a small percentage of the overall population, especially in the US.

It's truly sad to see the various elements of the ballroom-dance industry fighting over what limited economies there are in this activity, like wild animals fighting over a carcass.



jj
Re: Truer words were never written.
Posted by Polished
10/21/2008  2:16:00 PM
This to most will be news. The IDSF an Amatuer body started a Professional Section. So the WDC a Professional body have introduces an Amatuer Section. Which to me seems fair enough. The WDC events have no restrictions, meaning it is completely Open to anyone. The same cannot be said about the other group who have issued a list of current competitions that YOU are not allowed to take part in. Judges included.
On the horizon there is a war looming.
Re: Open.Lets use the word correctly
Posted by anymouse
10/21/2008  8:09:00 PM
"Any competition organized by the WDC is completely Open."

Perhaps those organized by the WDC itself, but most "WDC" competitions are organized by its national member bodies, and many of those are not open. You still must hold an appropriate membership card to enter.

You might think they are a bit better than the IDSF in that they don't threaten to revoke your membership card if you dance elsewhere. But that's only true for amateurs and they don't have many amateur events. If you dance in an IDSF pro events, Donnie has threatened to declare you to be an amateur again. WDC does have lots of pro events, so they protect those.

In the end they are both the same - they make threats to protect what they have, and then turn around and claim to be in favor of free choice in the area where they don't yet have much of a presence to loose to "fair" competition.

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