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Re: The timing of waltz
Posted by dheun
2/9/2010  7:25:00 AM
Thanks for the feedback on this topic. It all makes sense to me. Considering his e-mail user name of Waltz123, I had a feeling what Jonathan would have to say about this.
I asked a professional couple the same question at an event in our community last weekend, and they said maybe when you go into promenade position, it may look or feel more like a SQQ move to get set up, but even then it is supposed to remain the steady 1-2-3 count.
Terence, your input was really interesting, as usual.
Re: The timing of waltz
Posted by Waltz123
2/9/2010  5:36:00 PM
Yes, that's me. I like to use Admin to answer questions about the website, and Waltz123 to participate in discussions as a regular user.

In all styles of dancing, the dancers often like to take artistic license to "stretch" and "squeeze" counts for added musical emphasis. In this regard, one might describe the stretched counts as "slows" and the squeezed ones as "quicks". But this would be a completely different usage of the words "slow" and "quick", a subjective description of the feeling one might get from manipulating the timing, not a literal description of beat values where Slow = 2 and Quick = 1.

I guess you can't say it's wrong, but I'd recommend teachers use something else to describe this method of manipulating timing. The words Slow and Quick have come to mean something very specific in the teaching of ballroom dancing, and when you switch semantic gears without a thorough disclaimer, you're begging for confusion.

But let's say for the sake of argument I were going to use Slows and Quicks to describe which beats are stretched and which are squeezed. In Waltz, I would be more inclined to use QSQ, where step 2 is held the longest. On the other hand, if I have a beginner student who needs help completing the lowering on 3 to avoid "lurching" into the next 1, I might describe it as QQS. In other words, SQQ in Waltz is probably only rhythm I *wouldn't* use.

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: The timing of waltz
Posted by terence2
2/9/2010  11:27:00 PM
The "bottom " line in musical expression is always ( or should be ) personal taste, when one is dancing at more advanced levels.

HOW we interparate music, is what makes us distinctive .

But.. at the beginners level, conformity to set standards is always more advisable .
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