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Re: Seriously?
Posted by belleofyourball
4/19/2011  7:55:00 PM
What makes you assume that it isn't? Have you been to Botswana?

If only 2.1% of the population speaks English and it is used as a business language then it is most likely taught formally in schools. It is also likely this is the first time most people from Botswana learn it as a spoken language.

Formal language as taught in schools tends to be more polite as a rule. Therefore the line of logic says...she should be versed in polite English and not that garbage she wrote.

I do appreciate that you want to give her the benefit of the doubt...that is kind of you.
Re: Seriously?
Posted by anymouse
4/20/2011  12:59:00 PM
"If only 2.1% of the population speaks English and it is used as a business language then it is most likely taught formally in schools. It is also likely this is the first time most people from Botswana learn it as a spoken language."

You are most likely mis-interpreting that statistic to conclude that only 2.1% of the population speaks English and that they learned the language in school.

Much more likely (the world over) is that there's a wide familiarity with a local pidgeon version of english containing heavy influences from the native language, local meter and speech patterns, and of course input from popular media - and that this is far more dominant than the official "learned in school" version of the language in everyday communication between ordinary people.

And it's that local english which the message appears to be written in.

If you are familiar with the "Pata Pata is the name of a dance we do down Johannesburg way" Cha cha track, the local english interludes may give some idea of the effect (although while Tswana is also spoken in South Africa, it's not the language in that song)
Re: Seriously?
Posted by belleofyourball
4/20/2011  10:44:00 PM
Anymouse,

You and I aren't going to agree on this. I don't actually mind people trying to struggle to speak a language...or write a language.

Pidgin English is something I have been introduced to and I will be honest...I've been to almost 50 countries and been exposed to plenty of dialects. I've been to every continent but Antarctia...charming local dialect here doesn't ring true in my ears.

I am really not that old...trust me I don't have any grey hair and it didn't get that way because I dye it. So that isn't a valid argument to use against me either.

I recognize text speak...I saw it I recognized it...I felt it was unacceptable.

The question is why do you feel so desperate to accept rude writing? Why do you need to defend it? What stake do you have in approving of her so called 'pidgin' English?

Sociologicaly speaking...you are not doing her or anyone else any favors by accepting inappropriate communications no matter how 'colorful' you might feel they are.

Re: Seriously?
Posted by Ladydance
4/21/2011  12:39:00 PM
Thank you Belle. I was gong to ask the same questions. This forum use to be full of interesting questions and debates (OK, fights) about dancing. Now it has been reduced to partner requests with no info as to where the person lives or anything. It is beyond boring. Often, I think these requests are fishing expeditions by young women with no dancing experience who happened to come across this site once, never to return. Same with the requests for music. Do any of these people actually read the responses? A simple thank you would be nice every once in awhile. Usually, I ignore most posts but this one was particularly galling and incredibly ignorant.
Re: Seriously?
Posted by anymouse
4/22/2011  9:39:00 PM
"The question is why do you feel so desperate to accept rude writing? Why do you need to defend it? What stake do you have in approving of her so called 'pidgin' English?"

People are going to speak the language they speak every day in the way they speak it regardless if you or I approve or not.

"Sociologicaly speaking...you are not doing her or anyone else any favors by accepting inappropriate communications no matter how 'colorful' you might feel they are."

I do not have any problem with someone communicating with someone with whom they share a dialect using that dialect.

Perhaps the difference between you and I is that I recognize that neither of us were amongst the intended audience of that message.
Re: Seriously? (Male partner wanted in Botswana)
Posted by belleofyourball
4/17/2011  12:16:00 PM
By the way, you are right I should have looked up Motswana as well before I commented on it.
Re: hello
Posted by mash32901
4/18/2011  12:04:00 AM
I'm also new at dancing. Where r u from? I'm a man of 21. I live in Melbourne, FL. where do u live?
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