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What`s in a name?
Posted by hstumpf
4/22/2001  3:09:00 PM
I'm not interested in arguing whether or not this style of dancing is a sport or not. How we categorize it doesn't change what it is one way or the other. It is both art and athletic endeavor, always has been, and always will be.

What concerns me is the changing of its name from ballroom dancing to dancesport. It is dancing on a ballroom floor. When people go to a ball, they dance this style of dancing. Those who consider it an art form and not a sport certainly can't like the name.

And how would, for example, basketball players like having their sport renamed bigballsport -- Or synchronized swimmers and syncsport -- or caber tossers and logsport -- or biathalon athletes and bisport -- it must seem idiotic to athletes in these sports, and many other sports, too.

Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Valerina
3/23/2007  11:17:00 AM
I think Dancesport is a primarily a sport with an artistic component much like figure skating or other "artistic sports".

I would venture to say that the artistic component varies greatly depending on levels and that only at the highest levels of dancing have I seen the type of "artistic expression" which comes close to that of ballet or modern dance for instance.

To me, ballet (for example) is a true art form because even though there are ballet competitions, the primary goal of ballet is not the competition aspect but the communication of an artistic vision (of the choreographer and dancers) to an audience. However, the primary focus of ballroom dancing is to win competitions in order to achieve the highest ranking possible. The communication of an artistic vision is really secondary here.

Just my own opinion!

Valerina
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Quickstep
3/23/2007  6:29:00 PM
Guys. Modern Ballroom Dancing is a Dance Sport recognized throughout the world as a Sport and also by the Olyimpic Comittee. IOC. Some countries have Ballroom dancers at their Institute of Sport. Also any of you competing can now be drug tested just like any other sport. For those of you who are aware. This has already happened. One of the best dancers in the world today, copped a three month ban because the substance used in a diet pill was on the banned list and she tested positive. Most of us if asked to pea in a bottle would tell them to shove it. But if you were at the top there is no choice. It is already a Sport, officialy.
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Juice23
3/23/2007  7:18:00 PM
Yep.

It's an art.

It's a sport.

Elements of dance that competitors are judged on such as musicality, characterization, etc are extremely artistic.

It is with these supported by a strong foundation in technique that dancers need to be very physically fit to do well and reach the top in the competitive world of dancesport.

The art and sport aspects go hand in hand. You can't really separate one from the other.
Re: re: Is dance a sport?
Posted by Quickstep
3/23/2007  8:27:00 PM
For those who are not into competitions . In the News Letter on Video by Richard Hearn he referes to some of there groups as being suitable for the Hobby Class and some for the high grade competitor. So , if you are a walk around social dancer it is a hobby. If you are a competitor it is a sport.
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Anonymous
3/24/2007  10:51:00 AM
""For those of you who are aware. This has already happened. One of the best dancers in the world today, copped a three month ban because the substance used in a diet pill was on the banned list and she tested positive. Most of us if asked to pea in a bottle would tell them to shove it."

You are forgetting chapter 2, in which she got the court to tell the cup-holders to "shove it" and went on to win a world title!!

Apparently some people in the world still recongize when things have gotten out of hand!
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Quickstep
3/24/2007  5:06:00 PM
I don' t understand your paragraph Two. There was no court case. There was nothing that was a criminal offence. The same thing could happen to any of us. We might simply buy a slimmimg product over the counter at our locall chemist. If it has in it a substance listed by the IOC and we are tested . We are gone.
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Anonymous
3/24/2007  5:38:00 PM
"I don't understand your paragraph Two. There was no court case. There was nothing that was a criminal offence."

It was not criminal court.

She took the drug testing people to court, which suspended her suspension, as a result of which she was free to win the world championship title, which was danced during the time when the drug testing people had said she would not be allowed to dance.
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Juice23
3/24/2007  6:03:00 PM
Yeah- it was just a sports court that ruled on the suspension by the drug committee in the IDSF.

That said- yes, competitive dancing is a sport now but if you look at all of the top dancers they work first to make something artistically beautiful- then they can use that to win. Not results first.
Re: What`s in a name?
Posted by Quickstep
3/24/2007  7:55:00 PM
There are some benifits to be had now dancing is offically a sport. It puts them on a par with other sports that receive government funding. There aren' t many countries that dont have a Minster of Sport. We here have had a lot of help getting programs into place in schools.
Dance Easy is a strategicially
planed developement that actively and systematecally targets the education System. It comes in a package form . More about that from Dancesport Australia. Go to Easydance.

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