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Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by riantomulia
6/13/2008  9:28:00 PM
Hi All,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding in Rhumba is that we dance the beat of 2, 3, 4. After which we are supposed to hold and compress at the end of the beat 4 continuing to 1 (i.e. hold still, just settle the weight). Are we allowed to dance on the section of the beat of 4 to 1 (i.e. by taking step, spin, or other move)? Which means can we take a step and reach at 1 instead of 4?

Please advise, Thanks.


Regards,
Rianto
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by CliveHarrison
6/14/2008  4:38:00 AM
Very few Rumba figures have steps falling on beat one. The major exception is the Spiral, with its delayed forward walk, pointing the foot, without weight, on four, and stepping with turn ending in a spiral cross on one.

Actually, lots of rumba figures ARE danced on one, at least here in the UK, because sequence dancers seem completely incapable of dancing on the correct beat; and if you are the only couple in the room dancing "on two", you have to concentrate like hell, and get very funny looks. Such is life.
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by SocialDancer
6/14/2008  9:36:00 AM
Yes you can do many things on beat 1, provided it is done intentionally, maybe to interpret the music or to achieve a foot-change by one partner so that both use the same foot at the same time.

The basic text-book figures usually just have the weight transfer on 1 but there are numerous variations that could be danced differently.

You do not say how much dancing you have done. I would suggest beginners stay with standard timings until they fully understand the dance or until their teacher gives them a syncopated variation.

I would add though that you should not 'hold still'. Even when not taking a step we are still dancing. Some part of us, body, arms, head, eyebrows, should still be moving.
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by Serendipidy
6/14/2008  6:12:00 PM
Rianto. I would suggest that you go to Learning Centre to the left on the opening page.Then find Latin Motion Have plenty of paper in your printer.You will find that the Hip only moves on beat one. You could say to yourself Stop, on beat four. And then pass the hip over on beat one. That is called a Latin Motion.
( I will add this. Some ask why a Tango is not classed as a Latin Dance. Answer it doesn`t have a Latin Motion ). Now back to the Rumba.
There are some teachers who teach not to count beat one. They say 2 3 4 hip. Don`t forget to also look at Spins and Turns. And as I said have plenty of paper in your printer.
There are many steps where the hip will not be used on a beat one, the Spiral for instance or a Spin. Good Luck
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by cdroge
6/17/2008  7:33:00 AM
It seems to me that today's dancers are dancing more hip action at the end of two and four than the way we use to on the "one"
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by Serendipidy
6/17/2008  5:51:00 PM
cdroge. Nothing stands still. With the slower music being played and danced to, there is more of the hips being used. I have been instructed that a step is only a step. It is the used of the hips between the step which is on the ( and ) which is in-between each solid beat.. I have been told that one of the leading teachers teaches to exaggerate the point, that we try to lift our hip up to under our armpit. Isn`t it a joy to get some Latin dicussion. You might be interested to know that the official tempo for a Rumba is now 27BPM. There is a move on to get it officialy lowered to 25 BPM recomended by the WDC. Although in a demonstration you will have no doubt noticed that it is being danced even slower than that.
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by terence2
6/18/2008  1:06:00 AM
It is gradually returning to its " roots "... Bolero, hence the slower tempi
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by BioSimon
10/20/2012  7:43:00 AM
"..Some ask why a Tango is not classed as a Latin Dance. Answer it doesn`t have a Latin Motion.."

May I humbly ask: what about the Paso Doble?

Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by rgswoohoo
10/20/2012  8:10:00 AM
My Instructors teach to dance the one beat, hold for two, then quick quick for 3 and 4

and then it is the bending of the knees which gives the "hip" action or "Cuban motion"

we land on the one and the feet stay in place but with the "and-two-and" our leg is straightening-weight shifting-right knee bending
Re: Confused by Rhumba steps on beat 1
Posted by waynelee
10/20/2012  8:44:00 AM
Rhumba on beat1.... Well, it is different for International Latin Rhumba versus American Rhythm Rhumba. International Latin begins on the two beat and American begins on the one beat. So, I am assuming that the question involves the American version.

Then, to make it a little more confusing, there are two different methods of teaching American Rhumba. The Fred Astaire school of thought does a quick-quick-slow beat, starting with a side step (beat 1) and close on the quick-quick and a forward/backward step for the slow. The Arthur Murray school of thought does a slow-quick-quick, starting with forward/backward step on beat one (slow), followed by a side step and close for the quick-quick.
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