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Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by CliveHarrison
8/7/2008  11:13:00 AM
I agree with you, of course, but would still maintain that we should avoid cutting a corner where is it practical.

What with all the old people who have conveniently "forgotten" whatever manners they ever had, and the second-rate competitors, trying to use a social floor for practise, we need all the courtesy we can muster.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by Polished
8/4/2008  6:10:00 PM
Anonymous. Bill Irvine who for years was the Master of Ceromonies at Blackpool on the many times I was there, would regularly anounce from the stage, usually in the Quickstep, that if you do not dance towards the two corners at the end of side one and the begining of side three those judges who are on each of those corners will not mark you. They will not even look at you. What was happening was some couples would half way down side one cut straight across the floor to the opposite corner. This caused no end of trouble and collisions.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by anymouse
8/5/2008  12:33:00 PM
"Anonymous. Bill Irvine who for years was the Master of Ceromonies at Blackpool on the many times I was there, would regularly anounce from the stage, usually in the Quickstep, that if you do not dance towards the two corners at the end of side one and the begining of side three those judges who are on each of those corners will not mark you. They will not even look at you. What was happening was some couples would half way down side one cut straight across the floor to the opposite corner. This caused no end of trouble and collisions."

There's a big difference between cutting off an entire corner in a large room, and avoiding the point of one in a small room when that corner already contains more people than it can hold.

Do you really think you do anyone any benefit by adding yourselves to a traffic jam?

And don't even think about going in there to do a line. If you are going to do that at a social, you need to do it with an awareness of traffic flow both in front of you and behind you, which rules out doing it in an already crowded corner.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by CliveHarrison
8/5/2008  1:15:00 PM
"Lines" are usually going to look silly, anyway, on a crowded social floor.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by Polished
8/5/2008  3:36:00 PM
Anonymous. Do I understand you correctly that you believe its OK to completly avoid dancing towards the bottom end of the Ballroom and to cut across from a 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down that side and to head diagonaly across the floor towards the opposite corner. Is that what you are in favour of. If the Ballroom is small and it is a competition then there should be no more than six on the floor at any one time. If it were a Social Dance on a small floor then most of your routine should be left at home.......
I'll add this. Very Interesting . The WDC, thats the professional people, are holding a World Amatuer Medalist Championship this Sept 26th in Montreal. Also they have formed a Social Dance Comittee. All of this can be found by going to their web- site.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by anymouse
8/5/2008  6:41:00 PM
"Anonymous. Do I understand you correctly that you believe its OK to completly avoid dancing towards the bottom end of the Ballroom and to cut across from a 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down that side and to head diagonaly across the floor towards the opposite corner."

That's not what I said.

What I said was that adding yourself to the crowd fully inside a corner does not help the situation for anyone.

There's a big difference between that and cutting across "1/2 to 3/4 of the way down" ESPECIALLY on a floor as long as they have at blackpool.

However, no one will complain about a guy who manages to always be on the opposite side of the room from the crowd. In fact, they'll call him masterful.

"If the Ballroom is small and it is a competition then there should be no more than six on the floor at any one time."

Never heard of a semifinal? Or an all-on comparison round? You might note however that this is a thread about social dancing, not competitions.

"If it were a Social Dance on a small floor then most of your routine"

Using social and routine in the same sentence pretty much proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by Polished
8/6/2008  1:53:00 PM
Towards the corners does not mean into the corners. There is a difference. And in a competition if the floor is small especialy at each end which is side two and four. If the heat has in it twelve couples. That heat should be split into two 6's. Selecting six from the twelve for the final. I have been involved in a situation such as this were the Waltz Foxtrot and Tango all twelve were on the floor. But not in the Quickstep. In the Quickstep there were two lots of six. After the judges had seen enough all twelve were recalled to dance together for a few more bars of music whilst the judges made any changes to there selection.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by DivaGinger
8/6/2008  10:35:00 PM
It's just not possible for you to separate competition and social, is it? It's like some kind of indoctrination. I feel very sad for anybody who can't just *enjoy* dance, and need to remind myself to do so more often.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by anymouse
8/7/2008  9:07:00 AM
"After the judges had seen enough all twelve were recalled to dance together for a few more bars of music whilst the judges made any changes to there selection."

Exactly, which is why 12 couples on the floor is not a rare occurrence at all, even if the round is initial split.
Re: Define "Social"...
Posted by Polished
8/7/2008  3:12:00 PM
Anonymous. The only reason they are back on the floor is because the judges who have made there selection choosing three from each six the judges want to make sure that maybe not any of the first group are good enough to go through. This also helps with any jiggery pockey that might go on. For instance putting the best six in the one heat for whatever reason.

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