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Re: Conga Drum in Cha Cha
Posted by Voco
7/12/2015  11:39:00 PM
Hi Jonathan,
To which version of Our Love Is Here To Stay are you referring? There are a half a dozen foxtrots of that song. Who is the singer? Or do you have a link? Thanks.
Re: Conga Drum in Cha Cha
Posted by Waltz123
7/15/2015  1:14:00 AM
Our Love Is Here To Stay is a jazz standard, so it doesn't really matter which version you hear. Assuming you're listening to a basic vocal version as suggested -- not a crazy "out there" instrumental bebop rendition where you barely recognize the song -- the melody should follow the exact rhythm I described.

Some versions that come to mind are Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Billie Holiday, Nat King Cole, Tony Bennet, Vic Damone, and even Rod Stewart. All the same ilk... Famous jazz singers performing straight ahead versions of jazz standards.

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Conga Drum in Cha Cha
Posted by terence2
6/28/2015  3:29:00 AM

One of the major problems with DJs who are hired for comps is :
many/most , do NOT have clue about the complex music in the authentic latin genre ( ya know, the stuff upon which we base our social dances ).

"Pop" music is/was often used for the simplistic reasoning that, the average public might get confused !! ( and that includes many teachers ) .Its been perpetuated, thru the show style dances, that became popular back when ( My era ).

The ONLY latin styled band back in the 40s and 50s, was Edmundo Ros, and he played primarily Samba and Rumba, as Chas didn't exist until the early/ middle 50s in the UK .

Latin rhythms are based on the " Son ". It is a dance, and also is broken down into various musical styles, for ex...

Guajira,Guaguanco, Guaracha Son Montuno, Son Bolero, and to complicate matters even more ," Clave" the sticks the beat out the direction of the specific style being played. There are 2 clave " strikes " one is a Rumba and the other is a Son ( Son 2/3 and Rumba 3/2.)

Those are the "stikes " that occur over the 2 bars , The argument is often , does clave happen over 1 or 2 bars, I say, it depends upon the arrange !!

Pretty much all Rumba, the authentic kind( and Salsa ) is written in a 2/3 , the oddball ,is Guaracha which is also written in 3/2.
To make matters worse, some song switch clave to 3/2 and back again.

Theres so much more to say/write, but.. for your purposes, as Jonathon said, locate the "2" , and dance away !!.

I realise this may complicate matters again, as far as the Conga is concerned, but, this was to hi-lite the importance of other instruments that, are an integral part of the music structure. Without the others the drum would be a "solo" event, as is danced in "authentic " Rumba creating the "call an response" , to which we ALL dance .

NB.. it must be mentioned that, the " Clave " is the Alma Y Corazon ( heart and soul ) of ALL latin music .

Re: Difference in cha-chas
Posted by terence2
6/30/2015  11:36:00 PM


Ask yourself this question ; when walking, does your knee flex and retain that position momentarily, straightning only , as weight is fully applied ?.

Now step to a straight leg.. Q.. which is more " natural " ?.

These are 2 competing theories ...The Intern. style chose the straight one, nut, altho trained initially in that style, I've come over to the other.
Reason ?.. I prefer my "latin " to retain its indigenous style in looks and technique, with a blend of both.

The word "correct " depends upon whom one asks .













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