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Tango
Posted by cdroge
7/11/2008  6:21:00 AM
Posted By Polished(Quickstep)So do you agree that at the end of the Progresive Link or a Brush Tap you should be with your feet both man and lady in a closed position.
Re: Tango
Posted by anymouse
7/11/2008  10:24:00 AM
"Posted By Polished(Quickstep)So do you agree that at the end of the Progresive Link or a Brush Tap you should be with your feet both man and lady in a closed position"

This is really a problem of language.

By definition, the progressive link ends in promenade position.

However, many have legitimate concern that it may be danced with the bodies opened too far off of each other.

In fact, a promenade position (and every other position in the international modern) should have the bodies as closed to each other as is humanly possible for the circumstances of that step.

This makes the whole thing a non-argument. At the end of the progressive link, you will be in "a" closed position, specifically, the one of the three primary closed positions of the bodies called "promenade" (the other two major ones being inline and outside partner).
Re: Tango
Posted by jofjonesboro
7/11/2008  12:27:00 PM
anymouse, the "original" post specifically focuses the concept of closed position on the feet. Disregarding Polished/serendipidy/Quickstep's customary vagueness, I don't think that it is unreasonable to assume that she means "together" or "not separated."

Only in what you call the "inline" position are the feet actually so closed in Tango. In the other two positions which you list, they are not.

According to the context of the original proposition, I maintain that the answer must be "no."

BTW, the book clearly defines an ending outside partner as an "Open Finish."

jj
Re: Tango
Posted by anymouse
7/11/2008  3:14:00 PM
"anymouse, the "original" post specifically focuses the concept of closed position on the feet. Disregarding Polished/serendipidy/Quickstep's customary vagueness, I don't think that it is unreasonable to assume that she means "together" or "not separated.""

The original post did not specify a body part at all. When we finally got one specified, it turned out to be the distance between the partner's knees:

"The fault is because you know you are going into a Link the step gets taken too far to the left making it almost impossible to do a Link corectly, consiquently the step becomes open and the knees too far apart"

What is being described as needed here is in fact a promenade position of the feet, but one where the feet are close enough together that the knees can be nearly touching.

If you can actually have your knees touching while in the promenade foot position the book requests at the end of the progressive link, or only have them close, is an interesting question.

But there can be no room for argument that, however close you wish to have your knees there, the book still defines this as a promenade position.

Re: Tango
Posted by jofjonesboro
7/11/2008  6:31:00 PM
The first post in this thread is the "original" post. I put the word "original" in quotation marks because cdroge took it from another thread.

jj
Re: Tango
Posted by Polished
7/11/2008  7:27:00 PM
Anonymous. I take it that you can read. Go to page 274 in Alex Moore's technique book. If you have the same edition I have first look at Billy and Bobbie Irvine on page 229. Then go to page 274. On the chart you will see that the Progressive Link has two steps. Then it says underneath With the LF continue stepping into a Promenade figure. This has nothing to do with the Link. This you will find on any simular step throughout the dance. After the Five Step is one, but not on the fourth step of a Four Step, that does finish in Promenade. Go look at the difference. And don't finish like that on a Progressive Link.
To say again. The book does not say finish a Progressive Link in a Promenade Position. Don't let us try to lead people astray . Tell them to go look at the videos on this site which you yourself are completely ignoring
Re: Tango
Posted by jofjonesboro
7/12/2008  3:43:00 AM
You're babbling.

I looked at the videos. Jonathan and Melissa finish the Progressive Link in Promenade Position.

When a couple is in Promenade Position, their next figure will be [drum roll] a PROMENADE figure, requiring the left foot to move accordingly.

Polished, you do understand that Promenade Position is defined by the right side of the man contacting the left side of the lady, don't you? The fact that the "IE of Ball of LF" configuration is also used in figures which do not end in Promenade Position is irrelevant.

The only thing that might lead folks astray is your nonsense.

jj

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