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Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by Telemark
6/27/2010  2:24:00 AM
The Chase is a standard International Cha Cha Cha syllabus figure, charted in the ISTD Technique.

It is danced on the same foot (man closing RF to LF without weight on the second step of his first switch turn, while the lady replaces). They are on the same foot, until he repeats the foot change at the end.

Switch turns are just as commonly (perhaps more commonly) danced on opposite feet throughout (eg the Sally Ann Cha Cha, if you like that sort of thing), particularly by beginners and social dancers. Whether the American Style version uses one or other pattern, however, is outside my knowledge.
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by neobahamut72
6/27/2010  9:11:00 AM
Thank you Telemark, I think you are hitting what I am asking about.

In International, I am certain that this Silver Chase move is same foot throughout.

The question is if the Bronze American version is same foot or different foot. I'm hoping someone could give me a definitive answer. I've danced it different foot, as I've seen it done, and was wondering what the "official" answer is, as I feel like the same foot version looks better, even though its perhaps more difficult. Perhaps this is why it's bronze in American?
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by terence2
6/27/2010  9:28:00 AM
The definitive answer, ( from a former examiner ) is different feet .. and ,WHERE a figure ends up in a Syl., in some cases, is up for conjecture, and may have something to do with precedes and follows, in most cases ..

And, as I previously stated, the Syl. for Cha Cha was in place long before the " English " adopted the dance ( as is true of all the latin dances) If you're first.. ya gets to pick position !


Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by Telemark
6/27/2010  9:37:00 AM
Where is there room for conjecture, T? Surely, it is question of fact? I'm curious, now, but perhaps I misunderstand?
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by terence2
6/27/2010  10:56:00 AM
By that, I mean that decisions made by " bodies ", are sometimes questionable... as sagacious as they may appear, time has shown us, that not ALL their decisions were correct .

I guess the Rev. wave is a good e.g... modified after many yrs of struggle by the newcomers !( I still think this whole figure belongs in Silver
but that just my opinion )
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by Telemark
6/28/2010  8:29:00 AM
Yes, I see.

I find the current approach of the IDTA quite practical: leaving the selection of figures at each level completely up the judgment of the teacher. The old equivalence of Amateur Bronze = Professional Asssociate, Amateur Silver = Professional Licentiate & Amateur Gold = Professional Fellowship has worked well (and still does for most teaching societies), but it almost suggests that there is an equivalence of 'standard' on both sides of the '=' (which of course, there isn't, otherwise all you examiners would be going to your Gold Bar pupils for coaching, not the other way around), and several figures don't obviously merit the position in which they find themselves.

Being able to draw from the whole range of standard figures in preparing suitable material for medal tests is better, to my mind, than having to draw from rather limited lists. International Bronze is, frankly, rather dull (worthy, and important, but dull), and being able to use other figures without anyone thinking them odd is a good thing, I think.
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by terence2
6/28/2010  12:26:00 AM
Will agree with pretty much all of your post.. Ive never coached/taught to a strict guideline ( unless for medals etc ) I prefer options
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by dheun
6/28/2010  9:52:00 AM
As for how long the chase has been around in the American style cha-cha, I would confirm what Terence was saying.
They were called "chase turns" in the bronze level cha-cha taught at Fred Astaire studios many years ago. I would say I learned that step as a "chase turn" in mid to late 1970s.
It was really more of a stationary pivot, or swivel, when making the turns between the cha-cha-cha steps at that time. And a tap on the partner's shoulder when her back was turned to you would indicate you were done chasing and ready to move onto another step. Probably the same today ... and it better be, since we used it as part of a cha-cha routine at a recent fundraising event.
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by terence2
6/28/2010  10:42:00 AM
same old one.. been around since the 50s ( we always taught this to beginners.. they thought it was cute.. not me ),,,

As a matter of interest, the " free " turn from a crossover break (N.Yorker )was called a chase turn.. the Spiral was not danced in the Amer. style at that time ( and isn't taught by most studios in Bronze Amer. )..
Re: difference between chase in amer. and int. cha
Posted by ME.
6/29/2010  2:36:00 AM
Wouldn't it be better if the names in the Latin Style were brought into this century so that we have one name for each of the figures world wide. Just reading some of the postings. We have a Cross over break (N.York) called a Chase Turn. And names like Tukish Towel and Sweetheart and in the Rumba Kiki Walks. I can't think of a more stupid name. I would think that Six Curving Walks would be a better name or cut that down to Curving Walks
( that looks better doesn't it )..
Back to the Follow The Leader. Why not change it officially to the Chase.

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