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Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by terence2
9/22/2010  11:42:00 PM
My mis read... AS to tango.. I dont think one should make comparisons, as the general technique is unique to the style ..( altho many Pros dance it like it has " swing " !!,, Irvine made a strong comment about this )
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by ME
9/25/2010  2:11:00 PM
Luv2Dance. What is all this fuss about a Natural Spin Turn. All that step four is, is a Pivot, turning 1/2 a turn on that step four. The fifth step is a heel then a toe. Bit difficult to do if the right toe was on the floor dont you think.
I think a question that should be asked is. How high on the toe is the ladies 5th step, and does the heel make contact with the floor on that step.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by Waltz123
9/25/2010  8:02:00 PM
All that step four is, is a Pivot, turning 1/2 a turn on that step four. The fifth step is a heel then a toe. Bit difficult to do if the right toe was on the floor dont you think.
Well no, actually. That's exactly what the lady does when she doesn't have rise, as in a set of consecutive natural pivots.

It's actually not difficult at all to take a step which begins with the toe in contact with the floor and changes to a heel. Think about the first step in promenade following a Whisk.

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by Iluv2Dance
9/26/2010  1:39:00 AM
ME. I could have continued to write that the RF is changed to a heel lead for step 5.

Back in the 50's, when I was a member of the IDMA, an examiner would have expected to hear what Terence said, that the heel lightly 'kisses' the floor during the turn of the Natural Pivot. This was to emphasise that the weight was held forward, and because of this the body weight did not leave the RF through the right heel.

This question came about because in a conversation with a dancer, I was told that Marcus Hilton gave this footwork in the action of continuous pivots in a lecture on the Waltz.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by anymouse
9/26/2010  5:27:00 AM
The departure from step 3 of the spin turn satisfies all of the criterea for the man to release his toe. The toe will then lower during the rotation, only to rise again during the heel lead.

Someone who is not doing this is likely letting the rotation spoil their progression.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by Waltz123
9/27/2010  3:34:00 PM
The toe will then lower during the rotation, only to rise again during the heel lead
Do you really lower your right toe all the way to the floor while mid-pivot, or are you just talking more about relaxing the foot in such a way that it might lower slightly toward the floor?

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by ME
9/28/2010  7:51:00 PM
Anymouse. I have looked at both Mirko and Marcus on the Natural Spin Turn. I see that on the Pivot it is down to ground zero. I see the right heel in contact with the floor and held in front.
Question. Do we keep our knees bent on Pivots. That might be a clue.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by Telemark
9/30/2010  4:50:00 AM
Do we keep our knees bent on Pivots


No, we stay 'down', and the absence of tbe element of rise that comes from straightening the knees isn't the same thing as 'keeping them bent'. The knees should be slightly flexed, no more.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by Telemark
10/2/2010  1:03:00 AM
What is a Natural spin Turn. Is it the first three of a Natural Turn followed by a pivot, and finishing with a Hover.


No, of course it isn't. There is no hover in a Spin Turn.

You bend your knees if you want to. I'll keep mine flexed.
Re: Nat Spin Turn.
Posted by nloftofan1
10/4/2010  10:35:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssdbLOWqj3w

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