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Re: Posture
Posted by Anonymous
5/20/2011  2:48:00 PM
Lets take a closer look at the ladies stance, But first let us establish something about the position of the body over the feet. In a Latin shoe with a Cuban Heel the mans weight is over the balls of the foot, Where else can it be if standing naturaly. The lady whether it is a Court shoe or a Latin sandal, her weight will be over the balls of the feet in both cases. In the Standard style an ajustment of the position of the body in relation to the feet must be made. Just make sure it is from the thoracic region of the spine and not the Lumbar. If not done correctly. Back problems may become an issue. Plus you are back weighted.
Siver and Stardust. Is it neccessary to know the name of the person who writes this to put it to the test and then to draw your own conclusions
Re: Posture
Posted by Gold
5/20/2011  5:40:00 PM
Ms Bronze, You appear to have more knowledge about the article in question than the rest of us.The original thread makes no mention of damage to the lower back. Anonymous's reply to stardust seems to go off on a tangent introducing what appeared to be another statement "out of the blue", that didn't clarify the original query. i agree with Silver,the initial post was too vague to make sense. if the wrong part of the body is being used to peform certain movements, then what is the solution? It would appear that Anonymous has dived into the deep end of the pool without his (or her) waterwings. One last question Ms Bronze, are you by any chance Anonymous's Mother coming to its defence?.
Re: Posture
Posted by bronze
5/21/2011  12:15:00 AM
from the wording of the post it seems clear that a contrast between 2 methods of shaping, or attaining a body line is being indicated. it also seems to imply that one may be better, or more desirable than the other.

since the chest area and the lower back area were being contrasted, and since there are many more instances of lower back problems than those with the area between the cervical vertebrae and the lumbar vertebrae associated with dancing,it was a very good bet that the proposition did concern the lower back.

its borne out by Anonymous' reply to to silver.

btw, i'm not Anonymous' mother, and he probably doesn't like to be referred to as "its".

there was no query anywhere in the original post
Re: Posture
Posted by silver
5/21/2011  7:28:00 AM
Anonymous,
Yes. If you are going to reference an article as an authority supporting an assertion, your should cite the source. Your post made reference to an article. I might like to check the source. It's an academic thing. If I write a post and reference Anonymous as the source, shouldn't I cite what Anonymous wrote in some fashion?
You are right that we can discuss what has been posed, but I would still like to read the article that is the impetus for Bronze's statement. I might even enjoy it and be thankful. Meanwhile, the confrontation is delightful.
Re: Posture
Posted by bronze
5/20/2011  11:52:00 PM
confrontation is one thing, being dismissive out of hand quite another. as you see, there was no comment made, just a restatement of a fact reported. it doesn't beg any question. if the original post had been an opinion, would there have been a requirement of a dreary bibliography, footnotes, or references?

i had hoped that the experts on this forum would point out advantages or disadvantages of shaping out of the lower back, or stated technical facilitation or hindrances associated with one or the other method, ie. making certain transitions easier, or preventing proper execution of steps.



Re: Posture
Posted by ClumsyFellow
5/21/2011  4:19:00 PM
'i had hoped that the experts on this forum would point out advantages or disadvantages of shaping out of the lower back, or stated technical facilitation or hindrances associated with one or the other method, ie. making certain transitions easier, or preventing proper execution of steps."

I had hoped the original article would be linked to see if it points out the advantages or disadvantages of shaping out of the lower back, or stated technical facilitation or hindrances associated with one or the other method, ie. making certain transitions easier, or preventing proper execution of steps
Re: Posture
Posted by Waltz123
5/21/2011  9:16:00 PM
Chances are good you're not going to see the original article. If it exists at all, there may or may not be an online version. And if there is an online version, our anonymous friend seems reluctant to give specifics.

Nonetheless, as one of the resident experts here, I can attest that the original statement is more or less accurate -- or at least, the factual part regarding where the shape should come from. (I won't speak to how many ladies may or may not do this correctly).

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Posture
Posted by Anonymous
5/22/2011  3:12:00 PM
Something else that is never mentioned is a female who has a sway back or more of a curved spine than normal. Many of you out there have probably been involved in Polatis and know how important it is to whilst laying on the floor to get the whole of the spine in contact with the floor which when we stand up we can maintain.
Males , this also for you. Its all connected with correct posture.
Re: Posture
Posted by bronze
5/22/2011  9:55:00 PM
if one follows up consistently, what is required is a slight forward weight distribution, toward the balls of the feet,flexed knees,an engagement of the lower quadriceps, just above the knees, a neutral hip girdle, a neutral lumbar region, a forward and up projection of the right hip, positive engagement of the right transverse abdominus, the right external oblique and, for our purposes, a positive extension of the latissimus dorsi to the far left, while keeping the left deltoid parallel to the floor, and left upper arm, at least parallel to the floor, or preferably level with the man's left elbow. this will result in a competion grade preparoty step, and won't do too badly during the routine either.

you can also have a look at the frame, posture, and poise exhibited in the videos on this site.

to be preemptive, i'm not jonathan's mother.
Re: Posture
Posted by Oscar
5/22/2011  11:51:00 PM
Dr Bronze,
Thank you for your comprehensive description of our anatomy. For those who didn't fully understand it, a simplified version is detailed below:-

The toe bone connected to the heel bone,
The heel bone connected to the foot bone,
The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!

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