"Anonymous. If your body is front of your foot you must be leaning. If you aren't leaning then your body is not in front of your feet."

Try putting on your glasses and looking at the picture in learning center/forwared walk/second image.

The body is forward of the standing foot.

The body is vertical.

Deny either of those, and all you do is prove that you enjoy knowlingly arguing blatantly false claims.

"Is the top of the Leaning Tower of Pizza in front of the bottom. According to you it isn't."

The tower doesn't have knee or hips. Dancers do, and we use them to send our vertically aligned body ahead of our standing foot. WIHTOUT LEANING.

If I draw a line through my ear to my foot. That is the centre of my body. Even if I took my nose as being my centre it is still not in front of my foot.

If you want to keep your knees straight, draw a line from your head through you pelvis. Keeping that line vertical, inline your leg to move your body forward of your standing foot. You are now off balance forward of your standing foot, but you ARE NOT LEANING.

If you want to use your knee instead, draw a line from the top of your head through your standing knee. Keeping that line vertical, inline your shin only to move everything on that line (knee, hip, center, shoulder, head) forward of the standing foot while maintaining vertical alignemnt. You are not off balance forward of your standing foot WITHOUT LEANING. This is exactly what the dancer in that picture has done.

(though she's actually more off balance than she needs to be, as she has brought the substantial unsupported weight of her moving leg through too soon)

look and ye shall see.

typo city...

"If you want to use your knee instead, draw a line from the top of your head through your standing knee. Keeping that line vertical, inline your shin only to move everything on that line (knee, hip, center, shoulder, head) forward of the standing foot while maintaining vertical alignemnt. You are not off balance forward of your standing foot WITHOUT LEANING. This is exactly what the dancer in that picture has done."

incline the shin

you are now forward of the standing foot WITHOUT LEANING

Anonymous. Are we refering to the pictures. I don't see the weight in front of the standing foot. Just for the record picture one is picture four and picture four is one. You will meet up with this type of thing if you ever learn Rumba Walks.

"Anonymous. Are we refering to the pictures. I don't see the weight in front of the standing foot. Just for the record picture one is picture four and picture four is one."

Forward walk.

Picture TWO. Not 1, not 3, not 4, TWO.

The entire body is vertically aligned from the knee up. There is NO LEANING.

The entire body is well forward of the standing foot (the rear foot). Drop a line down the lady's back, and it falls noticeably forward of that toe.... you simply can't deny this.

This is a picture of a body that is off balance forwards, but quite well aligned vertically. Which is to say, it's an example of something you seem to think is impossible.

Anonymous. So you are looking at where the centre of the body is on the back foot. Even if take take our guide as being the nose, it is it is just ahead of the bent knee on the rear foot. Taking the guide as the ears which is the centre of the body weight it is behind the knee. But how can you bring the rear foot into the calculation, its gone as a progression , its history. The foot under examination is the front foot which you seem to think has the body in front to a point of imbalance and then catch the weight. or as you have said fall, along with the lady who is going backwards. Why don't you do what comes naturaly.I've got a feeling you move your back foot far to soon. Stay on the back foot longer and go right to the tip of the toe. That way you can forget about points of imbalance, catching the weight and so on. And maybe you might be able to listen to the music.

"Anonymous. So you are looking at where the centre of the body is on the back foot."

No, I am loooking at where the center of the body is FORWARD of the back foot.

"Even if take take our guide as being the nose, it is it is just ahead of the bent knee on the rear foot. Taking the guide as the ears which is the centre of the body weight it is behind the knee."

Quit trying to weasel out of it and simply admit that that picture shows a body which is VERTICALLY ALIGNED over the standing knee, and ENTIRELY FORWARD OF THE STANDING FOOT.

"But how can you bring the rear foot into the calculation, its gone as a progression , its history."

As the STANDING FOOT it is the only foot of any real importance at this point in the action. If you think it's history, that just shows how little you know about dance movement.

"The foot under examination is the front foot which you seem to think has the body in front to a point of imbalance and then catch the weight."

No, the foot under examination is the standing foot, which is the back foot, and the body is entirely forward of that.

The one glaring error in this picture though is that the front foot has already moved further than it should have. The unsupported weight of that front foot (remember, all weight is still on the back foot which the body is pushing off of) will put the body far more off balance than it should be. It is necessary to go off balance here, but by not moving the free leg too soon, the degree of off-balance will be more reasonable. As drawn, with the mistaken position of the free leg, this action would be nearly impossible without sliding weight on the front heel.

Anonymous. Originally you argued that the front foot does not get ahead of the body. that it got to the point of imbabalance and falls onto the next step, or is caught. To me imbalance means to get to a point where the foot has to move to catch the body. This is in Latin but not in Modern.
If you go to the Learning Centre. click on Forward Walks you will find a moving computer image of a Forward Walk. Which in it has the split weight which you argued was not correct.
If anybody wishes to they can go and see for themselves that the foot moves ahead of the body. This is also when going Backwards.
The part which is most neglected and most missed is the two straight legs when going forward or backward with the body moving through a split weight position. What usually happens, except with a correctly trained dancer, is the front knee is bent on arriving at that mid -point position.
My advice, for what it is worth, is copy those computer images. But remembering that there is also CBM which needs to be taught by a competent instructor. May the walks always be with you.

"Anonymous. Originally you argued that the front foot does not get ahead of the body. that it got to the point of imbabalance and falls onto the next step, or is caught."

More or less, yes. The front foot at least shouldn't be getting ahead of hte body this early in the step... that is what is wrong with the picture. What is right is that the body has clearly been projected into a position of imbalance, well forward of the standing foot.

"To me imbalance means to get to a point where the foot has to move to catch the body."

If your center of mass is not over or between standing feet, you are off balance, end of story. Since the picture shows the entire body well ahead of the only standing foot, this is obviously an example of imbalance. (and quite severly so, with all that weight of the moving foot forward far too early)

"If you go to the Learning Centre. click on Forward Walks you will find a moving computer image of a Forward Walk."

Yes, you will see a video created by someone who now himself considers it not quite right.

Anonymous. You said. Not quite right.
This was when the stills were being dicussed. I seem to remember saying that if it were moving it would pass the part you were critisising. If you go to the new computer moving clips and go frame to frame. It is most likely you could find that same frame and move through it.
Anybody reading this I would strongly suggest you go to the Learning Centre. click on Forward Walks and see the moving computer images. You will need Quicktime to view this which is easily loaded free.Just click on the logo.

"Anonymous. You said. Not quite right.
This was when the stills were being dicussed. I seem to remember saying that if it were moving it would pass the part you were critisising. If you go to the new computer moving clips and go frame to frame. It is most likely you could find that same frame and move through it.
Anybody reading this I would strongly suggest you go to the Learning Centre. click on Forward Walks and see the moving computer images. You will need Quicktime to view this which is easily loaded free.Just click on the logo."

The stills are just excerpts from the movies, right?

A line connecting erroneous points is also in error. Yes, it may be harder to see in motion, but the errorr are still there.