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Re: waltz technique
Posted by socialdancer
2/17/2012  10:56:00 AM
"A lot of things such the as the implicit body rise and fall that happens if we divide or reclose the legs without compensating becomes obvious when you scale up to modern standards, but were just not very visible or apparent at the smaller scale, and so aren't included in the written technique"

As they are implicit and we have no control over them then there is no point mentioning them in the technique, but they were discussed at quite some length by Henry Jacques in his 571 page tome, "Modern Ballroom Dancing" which shows rise and fall in graphical form. Not sure of the publishing date, somewhere between 1937 & 1944.
Re: waltz technique
Posted by anymouse
2/17/2012  12:13:00 PM
"they are implicit and we have no control over them then there is no point mentioning them in he technique, but they were discussed at quite ome length by Henry Jacques in his 571 page ome, "Modern Ballroom Dancing" which shows rise and fall in graphical form."

I continue to be impressed by how many ultimate truths were recognized by one author or another of that era.

But I would disagree that we have no control over the implicit rises, as we can and must compensate them where they are counterproductive. Consider how terribly bouncy viennese reverse turns are if much of the height gained from closing/crossing the legs is not absorbed.
Re: waltz technique
Posted by dianajorossano
2/27/2012  5:56:00 AM
You land too quick? So you hear the tempo differently than your dance partner? Right? If that is the case you are the leader, and you lead the dance the way you hear it. The follower should be following her lead, enjoying the music, but NOT dictating to her leader what he should hear.

I teach social dancing to beginners in Orlando. This may be my philosophy, and not others but it works well for me and my students.

Jo
Re: waltz technique
Posted by dave
4/8/2012  6:53:00 AM
Count the music as 1&2&3& ,make sure you are moving the body at one continuous speed through al the halve & whole beats. The beginning of the beat is a foot position the end(&) of the beat is a body position (weight of body over standing foot).
Re: waltz technique
Posted by LetsGoDance
5/26/2012  12:34:00 PM
Hi ,

I am almost convinced, that based on your way of asking about fall(lowering)on 3 problem, you probably count waltz : 1,2,3 and know that you have to step on 1, to step on 2 and to rise , to close on 3 and to lower(fall). And your partner as probably more advanced dancer knows or just dance little more technical aspects.

I can suggest to start count music :(&)1&2&3&... and to clearly understand what you do on each half beat of music.
I will not explain what to do on 1&2& as it could take to much space here.
Your problem mostly connected with 3rd music count(beat), lets divide it on 3 and &.
On 2& you stand on ball of the foot , knee little compressed free leg is apart, as it was just pushing you during the 2nd step. So starting position is clear. On 3 you should use all your possible rises (foot rise, knee rise and body rise together to the highest possible position so you fill your body is straitening). This will close your free leg to standing leg on which you rise, you should keep your free leg ball of the foot in slight contact with the floor to resist to closing action of the rise in order to control timing. On (&) transfer your full body weight on closing foot(ball of the foot)ans with no hesitation low. Lowering action will be just muscle relaxation and will start new swing action of next step. Also, when lowering try to do it in vertical line, especially before stepping back. You have to keep your heel off the floor, to lower on the ball of the foot and just when you push yourself backwards, to roll standing foot from ball to hill. This happens when 1 strikes.

I also suggest not to look at technique books, people wrote them for professionals who clear understand principles of movement, they just described (not explained) reactions (and not actions).
The best way, of course, is to go to good female professional teacher and to take pro-am lesson (when she dances with you), so you will fill what to do and when.
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