Not my theory: I'm talking about the standard technique of the teaching society of which I am a member.

As for Step 4 of a Pivot Turn: it is exactly the same (as man). Only the man has a pivot in either turn.

"Not my theory: I'm talking about the standard technique of the teaching society of which I am a member."

No, you are talking about a collection of historic mistakes and misunderstandings of your society's text.

"As for Step 4 of a Pivot Turn: it is exactly the same (as man). Only the man has a pivot in either turn."

Because it is substantially different for the lady in each case, the man's accommodation of her will necessarily make the detailed execution of his corresponding action different as well.

Your obstinate insistence that step four of both figures will be exactly the same as man is a perfect example of what happens when people let slavish adherence to an over-simplistic reading of the text take priority over essential dance skills such as listening to your body and accommodating your partner. Where you instead to employ those in your dancing, you would find that the actual execution as man of two things that look the same on the page turns out to be practically different.

Fortunately there are officials within the teaching societies who understand both the purpose and the limitation of the text, and are able to carry on enlightened discussions of how to do dancing that honors not only the fraction of the traditions represented by the ink on the page, but also the more complex demands of partnering and musicality at a level of sophistication which cannot be captured in a chart.

You are entitled to a view. My society, which has just completed a revision of all of its 'historic (sic) mistakes' has just repeated them.

As for the rest, I'll save my breath.

"You are entitled to a view. My society, which has just completed a revision of all of its historic (sic) mistakes' has just repeated them."

There are a few typos, but most of the mistakes are in the reading, not in the writing.

Fortunately, an ability to read between the lines prevails on the dance floor and amongst officials of the societies.

Have you marked up a copy of the technique book and sent it to the society to inform them of all of their mistakes?

Since you obviously believe that you know more about dancing than anyone else on the planet, don't you have a moral obligation to set all of those foolish officials straight?

jj

BTW, don't forget to include the US-ISTD and the IDTA as well. You may want to drop USA Dance, the NDCA, and DVIDA a note too.

I'm sure that they'll be very grateful.

"Have you marked up a copy of the technique book and sent it to the society to inform them of all of their mistakes?"

As I said to the other guy, most of the mistakes are in the reading, not the writing.

Your - let's say "interpretations" - confirm that you don't understand what you're reading.

I've changed my mind about you. I originally thought that you were simply an attention-grabbing jerk. Now, I understand that you have a serious disconnect with reality coupled with a desperate need to be right all of the time.

My only concern from here on will be to warn newcomers to the board about the questionable nature of your advice. I do not expect to engage you in any more "discussions."

I honestly pity you.

Best of luck.

jj

"Your - let's say "interpretations" - confirm that you don't understand what you're reading."

Odd then that mine are a much better match for dancing as it is actually practiced by those with experience...

jj

And we were just getting warmed up. I was hoping someone was going to tell us WHY the ladies footwork for the pivoting action in a Natural Pivot Turn is HTH, and is not the exact counterpart of the NST.

I'm disappointed now ...