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Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/19/2006  3:17:00 PM
"Anonymous. In a competition the judges see more of the back foot which should show a neat line to the tip of the toe. This is the line showed by the lady as well as the man. It is actually a picture step. Look at the pictures. Or look at your DVD's. Look and ye shall see."

In a step large enough to produce this, you will see it. In a step large enough to produce it, you shouldn't see it.

Only a beginner or a sophmoroic bookworm puts details into their dancing simply because they were told to.

In contrast, and actual dancer - an artist - will never show any detail not consistent with the entirity of the artwork they are creating. That means amongst other things that small movement will have different details than large ones, because those details are inter-related with the means of making an action larger or smaller.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/19/2006  3:56:00 PM
Anonymous. Do you have any video of any major championship. Do you ever look at them. Are you capable of seeing what is actually happening. Or do you only see what you want to see. If it doesn't suit your story do you ignore it. If you can't see even on the pictures on this site that there is a very nice leg line to the rear toe, either going forwards or backwards, then something is wrong with you.
In your last paragraph. What on eath are you on about.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/19/2006  9:01:00 PM
"Anonymous. Do you have any video of any major championship. Do you ever look at them. Are you capable of seeing what is actually happening."

Yes - I go through them one frame at a time and verify exactly what is happening - I notice a lot of mistakes on good dancers that way, too!

"If you can't see even on the pictures on this site that there is a very nice leg line to the rear toe, either going forwards or backwards, then something is wrong with you."

When the movement is large enough to create such leg development, then it will be seen. Obviously, championship dancers are more likely to create movement of a size that would legitimately cause this - wheras many of those who hang out here would not create such size movement - if they show that foot articulation, it is more likley to be fake than a natural result of the movement they are taking.

Proprotion my friend, proportion. Until you learn that this is more important than abstract details, you will be a bookworm and not an artist.

In your last paragraph. What on eath are you on about.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/19/2006  10:21:00 PM
Anonymous. It is possible to go to the toe and not take a bigger step than is comfortable,. The knee of the supporting foot will not bend to the 45 degrees that the dancers on your disk are doing. This must be a good learning thing for you. I hope you memorize it or right it down. I think you do because you have changed some of your beliefs from those earlier days. Haven't you.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/20/2006  7:03:00 AM
"Anonymous. It is possible to go to the toe and not take a bigger step than is comfortable,. The knee of the supporting foot will not bend to the 45 degrees that the dancers on your disk are doing."

So you have just now finally admitted that changing the size of the step will change the details!!!
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/20/2006  5:28:00 PM
Anonymous. And when exactly did I say that a step had to be certain length. I'm the one who quoted John Wood that from a Promenade position on a Running Weave, if both partners take the same size step at the same time nobody will be able to get in front.They will be stuck
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/20/2006  6:18:00 PM
"Anonymous. And when exactly did I say that a step had to be certain length."

You didn't. However until the post before this one, you were quite ignorantly insisting that the details of the action had to be a certain way regardless of the step size.

Fortunately you seem to have realized that error and admitted that different sized steps will have different details of action.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/23/2006  12:29:00 AM
Anonymous. Just to jolt the memory. I was the one who said that even on a Foxtrot Feather Step Reverse Turn, The size of the steps differ between the man and the lady. The ladies first step on the Feather is smaller than the man's. And so on from there, like the person on the inside of the turns is smaller than person on the outside of the turn..
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/24/2006  9:18:00 PM
"The ladies first step on the Feather is smaller than the man's."

An extremely worng and DANGEROUS idea. If you do that, you will not dance a proper outside partner position - with your hip still in front of your partner and only your leg past. Instead, if you actually move more than she does, you will dance your entire body past her, and that is not an outside partner position at all, but a hip-to-hip beginner mistake!

"And so on from there, like the person on the inside of the turns is smaller than person on the outside of the turn.."

That on the other hand is true... You do pass your partner on a turn, because you are trading places with her.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/25/2006  1:16:00 AM
Anonymous You've got that one wrong. Put it this way. With NFR the lady will travel less distance than the man on that first step. In fact she has a delaying action which allows the man to pass. You also have the same action on a Wave as the lady prepares to step outside on the Feather. Its called No Foot Rise.

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