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Foxtrot : Pattern following a series of natural pi
Posted by stevenliu
10/12/2010  5:05:00 PM
Hi :
Recently I saw a couple doing a F/S, O/T,
ONT, series of Nat. Pivots then a picture step, which I cannot describe. What patterns can be danced here? Also, can a turning lock to the R be danced here?
This was going into a corner.
Thanks
sl
OK, let me take a stab at it.
Posted by jofjonesboro
10/15/2010  8:04:00 AM
Making some assumptions here (which are actually irrelevant to your question).

F/S is a Fallaway and Slip pivot.
O/T is an Open Telemark
ONT is an Open Natural Turn

I'm assuming that you want to know what patterns can be used after the picture step. Because you can't describe that figure (which I'll assume is a line), it's difficult to know which foot the lead has free. Your question about the Turning Lock to the Right leads me to believe that the lead is backing LOD or DW and his right foot is free but that point isn't clear.

Obviously, you can do a TLR into a corner if you have enough room. Your issue will be transitioning from the line. The TLR is not usually indicated for Slow Fox Trot and I can't imagine this combination making a smooth presentation but some couples can do almost anything.

In the future, you may want to spare the shortcuts and provide a fuller description.

Good luck.

jj

(BTW I have a stalker on this site. You can ignore him. )
Re: OK, let me take a stab at it.
Posted by ME
10/15/2010  3:44:00 PM
Using abreviations to describe a step is not the best way to go.
How much longer does it take to write Fallaway and Slip Pivot instead of F/S
There are many reading these threads who wont have a clue what is being spoken about.
I wonder where we would be if Alex Moore had written in his book, for a Basic Figure, B/F or H/P. for a Heel Pivot
. It would look something like this. F/S. D/S. W and C..........T.T.F.N.
Re: OK, let me take a stab at it.
Posted by anymouse
10/15/2010  9:09:00 PM
F/S is most likely a feather step, not a FRSP
Re: OK, let me take a stab at it.
Posted by stevenliu
10/16/2010  8:00:00 AM
Sorry about the confusion. F/S was actually a feather step. ONT is open natural turn. And I wanted to know which picture step can be executed after a series of pivots.
Thanks

SL
Re: OK, let me take a stab at it.
Posted by terence2
10/16/2010  8:21:00 AM
A Rudolph Ronde...
The right foot of the lead is free and
Posted by jofjonesboro
10/16/2010  9:09:00 AM
you'll be stepping forward so either a Same Foot Lunge or Right Hinge would be indicated.

Either figure adapts well to a corner.

jj
Re: The right foot of the lead is free and
Posted by stevenliu
10/18/2010  6:51:00 PM
Yes. This is great. A same foot lunge followed by a hinge and finally a pivot into a hover promenade. (DC new LOD)
Thanks to all for their input.
sl
Re: The right foot of the lead is free and
Posted by phil.samways
12/10/2010  4:02:00 AM
I wouldn't want to try a same foot lunge immediately after a series of pivots (natural pivots, i'm assuming). There's a lot of rotational energy in the pivots which would be hard to absorb in the entry to the same foot lunge, which needs to be well balanced to look good. Terence's suggestion of a Rudolph ronde is far more appealing as this would absorb the energy in a lovely picture step.
Absorbing energy.
Posted by jofjonesboro
12/10/2010  8:32:00 AM
a lot of rotational energy in the pivots which would be hard to absorb in the entry to the same foot lunge,

Exactly right. That's why the energy is absorbed during the final pivot as its speed softens into the graceful extension of the lunge.

In other words, you slow down before you get to the lunge (requires real leg control).


jj

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